In January 2011, Bill George, former Chairman & CEO of Medtronic’s, Professor of Management Practice at Harvard Business School and author of True North, joined us on the McCuistion program to talk about character and leadership; of which he is an acknowledged expert. Dennis asked him, “There are people watching this program who will ask, how is it that you can be so focused on character and values and yet be on the board of Goldman Sachs?”

Bill George answered, “Here’s a firm that for 140 years focused on their clients. They paid their people well. They paid for performance… not stars. They were the first execs on Wall Street that didn’t take bonuses. And when they saw the problem with sub prime mortgages, they got out 18 months ahead of everyone else.”

Yet with all that said, Goldman Sachs history is problematic.

March 12, Greg Smith, a Goldman Sachs director in London resigned, and in doing so published this letter, (NY Times) detailing his grievances, including the charge the firm is ‘morally bankrupt.’

“Today is my last day at Goldman Sachs. After almost 12 years at the firm – first as a summer intern while at Stanford, then in New York for 10 years, and now in London – I believe I have worked here long enough to understand the trajectory of its culture, its people and its identity. And I can honestly say that the environment now is as toxic and destructive as I have ever seen it.

To put the problem in the simplest terms, the interests of the client continue to be sidelined in the way the firm operates and thinks about making money. Goldman Sachs is one of the world’s largest and most important investment banks and it is too integral to global finance to continue to act this way. The firm has veered so far from the place I joined right out of college that I can no longer in good conscience say that I identify with what it stands for.

It might sound surprising to a skeptical public, but culture was always a vital part of Goldman Sachs’s success. It revolved around teamwork, integrity, a spirit of humility, and always doing right by our clients. The culture was the secret sauce that made this place great and allowed us to earn our clients’ trust for 143 years. It wasn’t just about making money; this alone will not sustain a firm for so long. It had something to do with pride and belief in the organization. I am sad to say that I look around today and see virtually no trace of the culture that made me love working for this firm for many years. I no longer have the pride, or the belief.”

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2011 and 2012 show numerous challenges with Goldman Sachs. In fact we wrote about these in an earlier story.

The Securities and Exchange Commission has announced that Goldman Sachs will pay $550 million to settle the SEC’s charges against the firm. According to Robert Khuzami, Director of the SEC’s Division of Enforcement, “Half a billion dollars is the largest penalty ever assessed against a financial services firm in the history of the SEC. This settlement is a stark lesson to Wall Street firms that no product is too complex, and no investor too sophisticated, to avoid a heavy price if a firm violates the fundamental principles of honest treatment and fair dealing.”

In April last year, the SEC sued Goldman Sachs and one of its employees for civil fraud, alleging they defrauded investors in 2007, in selling a financial product tied to sub prime mortgages. While Goldman acknowledged that its marketing materials for the sub prime product contained incomplete information, Goldman agreed to settle the SEC’s charges without admitting or denying the allegations by consenting to the entry of a final judgment that enjoins them from violating the anti fraud provisions of the Securities Act of 1933.

In its complaint, the SEC alleged that Goldman misstated and omitted key facts regarding a synthetic collateralized debt obligation it marketed. In particular, the SEC alleged that Goldman failed to disclose the role that hedge fund Paulson & Co. Inc. played in interests were adverse to CDO investors. Of the $550 million to be paid by Goldman in the settlement, $250 million would be returned to harmed investors through a Fair Fund distribution and $300 million would be paid to the U.S. Treasury.

In spite of Sarbanes Oxley abuses keep piling up with more than a few business icons. This last month we aired the story of Richard Bowen- who blew the whistle on Citi.

Yet the values of true leadership Bill George shared are sound and indicative of how a company ‘should” operate on every level- with their internal customer, the employee, and certainly their external customer. Building loyalty and good business practice is more than just an aggressive return on investment to the shareholder, regardless of how some disparage their commitment to the public, their stakeholders and employees. George’s input on integrity and what true leadership means gives us a true north perspective.

In fact Bill George was on a committee that closely examined sound business practice and how Goldman should conduct its affairs. More can be read at this link: http://www.goldmansachs.com/who-we-are/business-standards/committee-report/business-standards-committee-report-pdf.pdf

Still history is showing Goldman still has far to go.

As always, thanks for watching as we talk about things that matter with people who care.

Niki Nicastro McCuistion
Executive Producer/ producer
Business performance consultant/ coach
nikin@nikimccuistion.com
214-750-5157

During this episode on Character and Leadership, former Medtronic CEO, Bill George, now Professor of Management Practice at Harvard Business School, joins Dennis McCuistion for a frank discussion on ethics and business practices in corporate America.

Bill George is the author of several business books, which include: True North and 7 Lessons for Leading in Crisis.

He tells us,“Leaders of my day, kids of the Kennedy era, were supposed to make a difference.  Yet, we destroyed big companies.” George asks, “What happened?”

Bill George believes many corporate leaders play for the short term, not the long term.  He believes that in business we are “playing up leaders who are playing for that short term… Business is too serious to be  about YOU… You can’t create anything in a quarter.”

In response to Dennis’ question: “Is corporate ethics an oxymoron?” Bill responds, “No- it isn’t. There’s a whole generation of leaders who are coming along.”

View the video for a discussion with Bill George on the qualities of effective leadership and the True North principles that guide them.

And as always, thanks for joining us as we talk about things that matter with people who care.

Niki Nicastro McCuistion
Executive Producer/Producer

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01.03.10 – 1811

The cost of energy supplies affects us daily and already we are seeing even higher prices at gas pumps and increasingly heated debate over our energy policy.

Dan Yergin, with Niki and Dennis

Dan Yergin, author of The Prize and The Quest joins McCuistion via a previously conducted interview. He states that with the increased availability of shale, gas and other technology driven solutions  America is on the verge of becoming more energy secure and  fast becoming more energy independent. In the near future America may be far less dependent on the Middle East for its oil supplies. We’re also twice as energy efficient as we’ve ever been.

Yergin maintains that net petroleum imports into America have declined from 60% in 2005 to 46% today. Further, the development of new ways of producing oil and gas through technology are huge factors in today’s energy security for America. The availability and price of energy affect our lives on a daily basis and with our close connection to Canada our pooled resources allow for imports actually going down. With US oil production up the good news is more money is being spent in the US rather than abroad, creating much needed jobs.

We also feature the late Matt Simmons; author of Twilight in the Desert, who talked about peak oil and the impact this could mean.

Joining us for the studio discussion,  bringing us the latest in energy news are:

  • Ed Blessing: Managing Partner, Blessing Petroleum, LLC;
  • Chuck Davidson, CEO of Noble Energy, Inc., and
  • Former Dallas mayor Laura Miller, now Director of Projects- Texas, with the Summit Power Group.

Laura Miller, once very much against dirty coal plants, is now working on a new concept involving building clean coal plants that capture 90% of carbon dioxide and sulphur; taking carbon dioxide, compressing it and pumping it back into oil wells. Summit has gotten significant grants – including $450,000,000 to work on these projects. Chuck Davidson’s company is far ranging, with exploration from oil and natural gas, in West Africa, Guinea, Israel, Mexico and Pennsylvania among others.  He informs us that the changes in technology have resulted in a 100-year plus supply of natural gas.

Ed Blessing believes that by 2017; if we continue on the present path of oil and gas exploration and safeguards, the US could well be the largest oil producer in the world. Production is increasing to a million barrels a day and this hemisphere could in fact be energy independent and energy secure. The good news is we have tremendous assets right here, positioning us for future security.

For the first time in a long time we should feel better about our long-term energy prospects.  While there are challenges, chief among them environmental concerns, we have renewable sources that are cost effective.

Energy security is critical to our future. We’ll be exploring these issues on two additional programs in the coming weeks so stay tuned, and go to our website at www.mccuistiontv.com, to view other programs on this and related topics.

Thank you for joining us. As always we appreciate your inviting us in to talk about things that matter with people who care.

Niki Nicastro McCuistion
Executive producer/ Producer
Business performance consultant
214-750-5157
nikin@nikimccuistion.com

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02.26.2012 – 1920

Unless you’ve been asleep the last few months, you know about the “loosely” organized movement referred to as Occupy Wall Street. Its slogan, “We are the 99 percent,” has resonated with Americans from coast to coast. But mainstream media often sets out to get the most outlandish sound bite or portrays the more sensational rather than accurate story.  So, for most of us, the questions still remain:

 

Who are these people? What are their issues? What do they want? And what does it have to do with me?

Prior to taping a program on this topic, Dennis and I took cameras to the street to interview Occupy Dallas protestors. The protestors voiced their concerns with the American economic system and the impossibility of trying to live on minimum wage. They expressed their anger at the business world and how increasingly business is corrupt and has damaged the American dream.

The protestors were vocal in their frustration with “the top few having all the wealth”.  They expressed concern at how today more college graduates than ever before are jobless and shackled with overwhelming debt and increasingly overwhelmed with their downward spiral. Some expressed no hope.

Our studio panelists are experts on this topic and give succinct comments on the situation’s cause and current status.

Joining us are:

  • Cal Jillson, PhD – Professor of Political Science, Southern Methodist University and author of the newly released, Lone Star Tarnished: A Critical Look at Texas Politics and Public Policy
  • Jacob Hornberger – President of The Future of Freedom Foundation
  • Jonathan F. Winocour – Attorney
  • Glynn Wilcox – Advisor to Occupy Dallas

More than a history lesson, our panelists and man/woman on the street, present a vivid picture of the facts on the ground.

Jacob Hornberger believes we need to eliminate the welfare state and restore the principles on which this country was founded. Cal Jillson talks about the concentration of wealth and that this has been repeated in our history before- even back to Andrew Jackson who fought against the first banks. Jonathan Winocour says that this is not just an American historical phenomenon but a global movement. He states that it started with the Arab spring and that this present situation is more than a dispute between Hamilton and Jefferson. Glynn Wilcox, who has been up front and center with Occupy Dallas talks about the frustration of crony capitalism and what is continuing to destroy the American dream.

Left wing critics of the Tea Party say that many in that group didn’t have a good grasp of the issues or of politics and elected officials. They were often correct. Right wing critics of Occupy Wall Street say the same about them, and they too are often right. Yet, what may be true about both groups is that both intuitively know that there is something not quite right with where this country is headed.

On this episode covering the Occupy Wall Street movement, our panelists challenge us to ask tough questions, of government and of business.

Thanks for joining us as we talk about things that matter…

Niki Nicastro McCuistion
Executive Producer/ Producer
Business consultant /speaker on transformational change…
nikin@nikimccuistion.com

 

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02.19.2012 – 1924

We keep trying to figure out just what caused the mortgage meltdown and credit crisis, and one might very well ask, “Didn’t anyone know what was  going on? Did anyone ask? Did anyone care?”

The  truth is – many did. Richard Bowen, now a  Senior Lecturer at the University of Texas- Dallas, the Jindal School of Management, was one who did. Richard was the Business, Chief underwriter at  Citi Financial, a subsidiary of Citigroup. His job was to oversee the credit quality of $90 billion of mortgage loans, which had been purchased by Citi from mortgage companies and banks. Some of these loans were sold to Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae – which are now in conservatorship with the Government.

Richard Bowen noticed that over 60% of these loans did not meet accredited guidelines. He attempted to warn everyone in his business unit that Citi  Financial had a serious problem with these mortgage loans. That problem eventually escalated from 60% to 89% of these loans not meeting quality standards — yet he was still ignored. Richard Bowen again warned all of  the key parties at Citi Financial.

After  attending a UT-Dallas, Institute for Corporate Governance seminar, and listening to  Michael Oxley, one of the key writers of Sarbanes- Oxley, he realized he had no ethical choice but to take action regarding  Citi Financial’s ignoring his warning signals. So he did. Yet, while investigations proceeded, little to nothing was done. His complaint was relegated to almost non-existence and given little to no attention.

Richard Bowen took further action. He  became a whistleblower. Today he is no longer with Citi Financial. In this episode we learn more about Bowen’s story and the role he played.

From Left to Right: Richard Bowen, Dennis McCuistion, and Wayne Shaw

We hear from Dr. Wayne Shaw, Helmut Sohmen Distinguished Professor of Corporate Governance; KPMG Institute for Corporate Governance at Southern Methodist University, about  the other side of whistleblowing and what an individual may encounter in the process. Dr. Shaw talks about what whistleblowing is, how it works, and the risks to the person who blows the whistle. According  to Wayne Shaw; people who take this step often lose their jobs and are shunned; often not getting a job in their industry again.

Ultimately, becoming a whistleblower is a choice- and one with, perhaps, heavy consequences. Yet, the ultimate question may be one of personal integrity. If something is wrong, do you keep quiet so as to protect yourself? Or stand up and take the risks?

Thanks for joining us:

Niki Nicastro McCuistion
Executive Producer/ Producer
Business consultant on transformational change…
nikin@nikimccuistion.com

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02.12.2012 – 1923

This entry is part 3 of 3 in the series corporate governance.  

Corporate Governance - ChinaDuring McCuistion TV’s episode on Corporate Governance and its impact on China and the world, they address three questions related to the credit crisis and corporate governance:

- How do the Chinese see our economic situation?
- How has trade impacted what multinationals do?
- How has American economic and foreign policy impacted the rest of the world?

Guests include:

Angelina Kwan: Managing Director and COO, Asia Pacific, Cantor-Fitzgerald
The Hon. Mario Mancuso: Partner, Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, LLP, Former Under Secretary of Commerce

One of the points that host, Dennis McCuistion, addressed was that by-and-large we as a society do not often talk about China when discussing the American credit crisis and corporate governance, although it does impact them. He asked Angelina Kwan for her perspective.

Ms. Kwan believes that,

“The US is China’s best past and present trading partner. China wants a strong dollar. China really thinks that America has a great entrepreneurial spirit and it will get out of the current trade deficit.”

Ms. Kwan states that China will continue to work with the US and not in an adversarial role, but first and foremost as trading partners.

Dennis agrees, “We, the US and China, need each other. China is the largest creditor of the United States. We need to both figure out how they [China] will get paid.”  Angelina Kwan tells us that the US needs to look at how it’s dealing with their dollars and its fiscal policy. China and the US are having serious discussions about China exporting less and the US having less dependency on exports and not relying so heavily on Asia and China.

The guests agree that trade is good for both partners. Mario Mancuso adds,

“A prosperous China is in the best interests of the United Sates and vice versa. Both being prosperous is in the global interest. These are the two largest economies in the world, and we agree on our ultimate objectives. We just can’t figure out how to implement those objectives- that’s the irony.”

He tells us, 95% of our customers are outside the US and if we build a wall, we close competitors out.

“A rules-based trading system is advantageous to competitive parties and the US is the most competitive in the world.”

US consumers benefit with better products at cheaper prices…

“An additional point, I take a backseat to no-one in terms of levying criticism, at the same time I don’t think the final chapter has been written on US economic leadership.”

UTDAnd a special thank you to the Institute for Excellence in Corporate Governance,University of Texas at Dallas, School of Management, (http://som.utdallas.edu/iecg/) for providing the guests for this 4 part series on Corporate Governance.


Tune in for the rest of the story as continue to talk about things that matter with people who care…

Niki Nicastro McCuistion
Executive Producer/Producer

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1809 – 11.22.09

This entry is part 1 of 3 in the series corporate governance.  

Amidst the financial meltdown over the last few years, there has been  a seeming breakdown of the ethics of corporate executives. Some observers believed that the regulatory changes under Sarbanes-Oxley legislation passed in 2002 would eliminate illegal and unethical behavior, but is that the case?

Joining Dennis McCuistion to discuss this and other issues surrounding this question are:

Todd Bluedorn tells us that essentially corporate ethics are about basic compliance, “you don’t lie, cheat or steal.” He believes that there is  more to this though, “It’s about selfless leadership…  and a balance, not just being selfish. It’s also courage and an internal and moral ability and willingness to speak to  truth.”

Sharon Allen tells us that the overall outlook for corporate America is good, it’s encouraging. Companies are focused on being good, ethical citizens, extending that to their employees and the individual stakeholders they serve. “It’s important to instill that… It’s too easy to say, ‘that’s business and that’s personal.’ No, ethics are ethics.”

Jared Richardson tells us that in any industry there is a code of ethics.  A company is its “Ethos – which develops from the people that make up the organization.”

Dennis mentions Enron, one of the biggest debacles and corporate bankruptcies in history and asks about Enron’s corporate ethics. He mentions that Jeff Skilling had been interviewed by us in 2001 and made  a point of referencing the companies 64 page ethics manual. Skilling also spoke to a group at Southern Methodist University that day- and  he shows a short clip of that presentation, asking “was a lack of ethics involved in the downturn of Enron?”  Todd’s comment:  “Skilling would have failed the selfless test!’

The guests agree it’s important to differentiate what has happened in the last 18 months from “just” ethical causes. The meltdown was as a result of much more-  structural issues and other fundamantal causes.

As Sharon reminds us regarding Sarbanes-Oxley,

“No oversight will ever solve internal  problems… It still comes down to  how an organization presents and governs.” Sharon cites a Deloitte study, that employees first look at ”their  manager and then their direct supervisor for their moral compass,” before other factors such as positive reinforcement, compensation and their peers.

Todd reminds us that,”It’s important to have structure and compliance and to force people to face commitments. It’s not only relying on good people and leadership.”

Jared agrees, that yes, it’s about the tone at the top and the direction from senior leadership and establishing a culture of ethical compliance.  But, he says,

“It goes beyond that, beyond the legal limits, if you will. It’s more than just the folks at the top, it’s at every level. The person you hire today at a starting  analyst position may be a senior manager tomorrow.”

In response Dennis introduces a Pinkerton study that says 30% of the population  not only will steal if the opportunity arises, they will create an opportunity to do so. Forty percent will steal if there is little danger of getting caught, and 30% won’t steal at all.

The guests discuss the pressure that organizations are under to produce, most especially in business downturns. They touch on the global economy and how there may be “unique practices acceptable elsewhere but not here.” Yes, global organizations are coalescing around acceptable standards.

Statistics on why people make unethical decisions in the workplace are discussed:

  • 80% Lack of personal  integrity
  • 60% Job dissatisfaction
  • 44% Financial rewards
  • 41% Pressure to meet goals
  • 39% Ignorance of code of conduct

They concur that at the end of the day- its still about personal integrity.

Todd Bluedorn leaves us with a thought that summarizes the theme behind this program, “If you live for today, you’re going to lose tomorrow.”

UTDAnd a special thank you to the Institute for Excellence in Corporate Governance,University of Texas at Dallas, School of Management, (http://som.utdallas.edu/iecg/) for providing the guests for this 4 part series on Corporate Governance.


As always, thank you for joining us to talk about things that matter with people who care,

Niki Nicastro McCuistion
Executive Producer/Producer

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1808 – 11.15.09

This entry is part 2 of 3 in the series corporate governance.  

corporate governanceThe federal government took many quick actions in the wake of the credit crisis in order to stop the damage. Now it wants to implement new regulations to prevent future problems.  In this episode of McCuistion TV, we examine changes in corporate governance.

Joining Dennis McCuistion, for a lively discussion on this issue are guest experts:

Edward J. Durkin - Director of the Corporate Affairs Department of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America

Francis H. Byrd – Managing Director and Co-Leader for the Corporate Governance Advisory Practice at The Altman Group

Robert Royer – Partner in The McPherson Group and former Legal and Legislative Counsel to the Securities Industry Association and former General Counsel to the Joint Committee on the Library of Congress and Counsel to the House Administration Committee of the United States Congress

Would you have believed me if  I had told you in 2007 that these things would happen…

  • Bear Sterns and Lehman Brothers disappeared
  • Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and AIG have been nationalized
  • Washington Mutual became the largest bank failure in history
  • The $300 billion auction rate securities market disappeared
  • Merrill Lynch was bought by Bank of America
  • Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs are now bank-holding companies
  • Congress approved a $168 billion economic stimulus package in February 2008, a $300 billion homeowner relief bill, and a $700 billion bailout of the financial system
  • The Treasury has guaranteed $1.3 trillion in money market funds
  • FDIC has increased deposit insurance to $250,000
  • The Federal Reserve has injected over $1 trillion of liquidity into the banking system

…and if you were in DC at the time, what would your response have been?

The discussion on corporate governance focuses on what Government has done thus far and what it is likely to do.

Robert Royer tells us of the mood in Congress and that it (Congress)  “is  fashioning a  broad yet specific approach to the problems of meltdown.”  He informs us that there has been some legislation produced by the Administration and the House Banking Committee while while the Senate Banking Committee has been fairly quiet throughout the process.  The two banking committees, House Financial Services and the Senate, are “the two principle engines of any change that might take place in this area.”

Ed Durkin tells us about unions, their funds, and how they impact our economy, while Dennis reminds us  that union pension funds are huge, saying that “People think of unions, from a ’40-’50′s perspective.” Durkin addresses this issue by discussing that Unions were the first to put in place employment pension funds.

According to Durkin, “unions are in a unique position to blend the interests of their members as workers as well as the interests of their members as owners.”

He believes we need to come up with a long term approach of value enhancement, reminding us that “the idea of workers owning America is one that people don’t understand.” Presently, there are over 100 pension funds in the country. He says, “we invest in the market.”

Francis Byrd tells us that board governance has now changed dramatically. “Share holders are far more interested in oversight of management and risk, strategic planning. They are on top of management, a huge dramatic change.”

Securities Exchange Commission (SEC)

The Securities Exchange Commission is a government agency.  Their role is to protect investors, not just institutions but individuals.

Has the SEC fulfilled its responsibility to its investors?

Royer says, there was a  lack of oversight and responsibility under Secretary Christopher Cox citing the SEC’s handling of Madoff.  They believe the SEC should have been tougher as the SEC did not have the most capable people with the best knowledge of exotic financial products.

With Chairman Shapiro there should be improved disclosure on companies and they concur that he is the right person for a very big task. They believe that Cox did  few good things, such as modernizing disclosure, but the new group will be more aggressive.

Federal Reserve and the Treasury

The panelists talk about the Federal Reserve and the Treasury and the power plays between them, over who is going to be that “over-arching regulator.”  The prediction:  The Fed will probably continue being in charge as the systemic regulator, despite  past missteps.

From the move to control executive compensation to amending proxie votes so brokers can not use shareholder’s votes to elect corporate directors, to proposed new regulations and the political environment – The Government’s Response to the Crisis in Corporate Governance gives us a well rounded education on what we must do to reduce future risk and negligence in corporations today.

Overall the crisis and meltdown may have caused much needed scrutiny. Thus, we are looking at longer term value creation for the good of all concerned.

UTDAnd a special thank you to the Institute for Excellence in Corporate Governance,University of Texas at Dallas, School of Management, (http://som.utdallas.edu/iecg/) for providing the guests for this 4 part series on Corporate Governance.


Niki Nicastro McCuistion
Executive Producer/Producer

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1807 – 11.08.09

Is your home worth more than your mortgage? For many Americans that is not the case and they fall further and further behind in their payments.

Yet why did so many Americans obtain mortgages they should not have?

Have you wondered why you can’t pick up a paper today without reading about someone having their home foreclosed on and what caused that problem?

The number of Americans behind on their mortgage payments keeps increasing. For some- they obtained mortgages they could not keep up with. Many mortgages were given to people who could not repay. According to panelist: Richard Bitner,” the mortgage industry is essentially a food chain-

Borrowers on one end and investment banks, rating agencies and securitization on the other. Mortgages were bundled and sold off to investors world wide under the belief they would perform better than they did. There was a belief that mortgages were low risk, like bonds.”

Panelist: C.K. Lee adds “ People owning homes is a good thing. Everyone from the President to mortgage bankers have said so- BUT- But there was a flawed premise behind this . The problems started with investment banks and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac- operating under the auspices of government.”…

In this program we’re going to examine, in simple language, all the mistakes and fraud that led us to where we are today and the many causes of the mortgage debacle.

Panelists include:

  • C.K. Lee –Managing Director; Commerce Street Capital
  • Richard Bitner- Author; Confessions of a Sub Prime Lender

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1903 – 2.20.11

Most Americans know that our federal government debt and annual deficits are unsustainable. The question is: what should be done to cut government spending? Solutions to the problem are not only hard to identify, but even more difficult to implement politically.

Join Dennis McCuistion and panelists as we share real solutions to save America’s financial future. Panelists are:

  • David Walker: Former Comptroller General, and
  • Mike George: Founder, Strong America Now

Unless you’ve been under a rock, or failed to see our recent program on the subject, you know that our federal government’s $14 trillion debt, its annual $1 plus trillion deficits and the unfunded liabilities for social programs are unsustainable. The problem is easy to identify, not as easy to understand the causes, but very difficult to not only identify solutions but implement them politically.

On this program you’ll hear some of the most creative ideas you haven’t heard yet. Regardless of your politics, you probably would like to see many of these solutions implemented. You won’t go to Iowa, but would you contact your elected representatives and make your views known. Our country’s future depends on it.

Thanks once again for joining us as we talk about things that matter… with people who care.

Niki Nicastro McCuistion
Executive Producer/ Producer
Co-Founder

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